I only sleep/doze for 1-2 hrs!!! Will I eventually be able to sleep?

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Does anyone have an internal vibration when they sleep?

I weaned off klonopin July 14th and have barely slept since then. I also have pins & needle sensations which wake me. I had sleep problems back in year 2000, which is why I was put on the k. I have always been a light sleeper. This is way worse though!!! I am very light/sound sensitive now, and have to cover every object emitting light in the house - since I pace the floor a lot at night & walk around a lot. I wear ear plugs also now!!! I am so sleep deprived!!!!!

 

I just don't understand this vibration in the trunk of my body and nerve sensations! Will they every subside???

 

Will someone post a success story of how this got better for them & how long it took to start sleeping better.

 

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I had a bothersome tremor in my neck area.  It was different from my all-over tremor - this one made me think of Parkinson's Disease and freaked me out a little.  Fortunately, it didn't last very long - maybe a couple of weeks.  I also had some really big muscle contractions in my thighs and gluts one morning.  My whole body was moving.  Very weird, but fortunately a one-time deal.  I'm not sure if either of these are like your vibrations, but these things happen a lot during withdrawal.  They get better.

 

Sleep also gets better.  It's taken me quite a while to get my sleep back, but it's finally happening.  It took me fully 7 months to finally start sleeping on my own (I was prescribed benzos for sleep).  I took a lot of OTC sleeping aids during that 7-month period, and they helped somewhat.  They helped more the longer removed I was from benzos.  Then I decided to simply c/t all sleep aids and let myself return to organic sleep.  It took a while (a couple of weeks of pretty sucky sleep), but I finally started sleeping naturally (for the first time in many many years).  I still take a little melatonin some nights, and I'm 'only' averaging 5-6 hours most nights.  Still, my sleep is way better than it's been in years.

 

Try your best to be patient and be calm/accepting about the whole issue of sleep. 

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hello HopeDreamBelieve ,

 

I quit xanax the same time you did 9/14/14 im sensitive to light and soudn as well i just put some toilet paper in my ear and wear sunglasses indoors the sunglases that work best for me is amber(light brown) colored lenses i bought from the $1 dollar tree . chamomille has always worked well for me im taking more vitamins now especially b vitamins b6 b12 b complex b7 biotin , im also eating a small piece of parsley since that is good for healing the nervous system ,

 

theres some sleep aids that have helped me when i was taking xanax i took melatonin occasioanlly approximalty 3 mg the melatonin i saw that worked best was walgreens 10mg melatonin (i cut the pill into several pieces) the walgreens worked best since it has b6 added to it to prolong your sleep. latley i've been taking valerian root 450mg xanax was the only medication i took so its safe to take valerian now ,  Valerian does NOT mix well with any kind of medications since it does something in the liver where the medicaitons are inneffective if mixed . im taking valerian since its a strong natural remedy to treat seizure/ convulsions as well as insomniia since ive had a past history of siezures.  i like to shower around 7pm and after shower i fill the bathtub with hot tub tempuerature water i just lay there with my eyes closed for 20 minutes or so in the bathtub its very relaxing my cup of chamomille tea is ready to drink after my bath i let the tea bag sit in the water a long time to make it stronger . i also like to put a few drops of lavendar oil on my neck after my bath and im dry. im also using a contour pillow to sleep with its made out of memory foam its shapped like this o-O it works great for sleep posture and keeps me from tossing and turning  i got that pillow at target a few years ago for around $15 . i also dress lightly to bed wearing just my panties & a camisole to sleep in . I also like to have a fan on in the bedroom or leave my computer on to make a lil noise to cover up any outdoor noises like a loud car driving by or a dog barkinkg . and i feel alot of comfort having something holy close to me next to my pillow such as a rosary i hold while falling asleep

im sorry this is alot for you to read HopeDreamBelieve

i really do hope this helps you i feel good sharing what has helped me to others so we can get through these difficult times .

i hope you enjoyed your sunday ok hopedreamsbeleive , & god bless you,

Katie (babyangel)

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Hope, I also had the internal vibrations. It's a very nasty feeling, but it does go away.

 

I'm also super sensitive to light and sound. I was always a bit picky about things being dark and quiet, but nothing like this. If I plane flies over our house, I wake up. If a car drive down the street, I wake up.

 

And, I have this vibration/fluttering in my ears now, so I can't wear plugs as they amplify the vibration in my ears.

 

The only thing we can do is hang on to hope, and know that in time, we will get better!

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Does anyone have an internal vibration when they sleep?

I weaned off klonopin July 14th and have barely slept since then. I also have pins & needle sensations which wake me. I had sleep problems back in year 2000, which is why I was put on the k. I have always been a light sleeper. This is way worse though!!! I am very light/sound sensitive now, and have to cover every object emitting light in the house - since I pace the floor a lot at night & walk around a lot. I wear ear plugs also now!!! I am so sleep deprived!!!!!

 

I just don't understand this vibration in the trunk of my body and nerve sensations! Will they every subside???

 

Will someone post a success story of how this got better for them & how long it took to start sleeping better.

 

I had every symptom you mention. For the first year, the most I got was maybe 3 hours of sleep a night (and that was a good night!) The second year, things started to improve but it wasn't until I hit 24 months that I started sleeping more than 5 hours a night. Keep in mind, though, that I took benzos for 30 years, and went cold turkey...plus I used to drink. IE I am kindled, and the result was an awful withdrawal that lasted longer than usual. I am now at 27 months, and fall asleep easily, usually get 7 hours. I usually wake three times, still, but no longer have to listen to sleep hypnosis to fall back asleep. I can actually FEEL that I am healing a lot now.

east

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I'm also super sensitive to light and sound. I was always a bit picky about things being dark and quiet, but nothing like this. If I plane flies over our house, I wake up. If a car drive down the street, I wake up.

 

You might consider having some deliberate white or pink noise in your bedroom at night (or maybe listen to something like delta waves).  You'll probably be able to quickly get used to the low-level noise and sleep through it, and that noise may help you filter out subtle external noises like a car driving down the street.  I used a pillow speaker for some months and listened to delta waves incorporated into ambient music (my therapist recommended it).  It was barely audible to me (and not at all to my wife).  The delta waves may even help boost your sleep.

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Thanks Everyone for your responses. I appreciate all your suggestions. I am already doing a lot of these things: I have a fan that I turn on in our bathroom which creates white noise. I also have an app on my phone where I play the sound of a stream by my bedside. I may buy a white noise machine & will look into the delta wave - not sure what delta wave does though??? 

 

I don't go out at night, as I need to calm myself with a 2 hour routine before bed.  I use lavender as well. I can't watch TV anymore!!! I sit outside and stargaze weather permitting (while others watch TV inside in the land of the living!). I am taking supplements: Phosphatidyl-Serine (anti-cortisol - read that in a holistic book), valerian root, passion flower, montmorency cherry, L-Theanine, Lemon Balm, Camomile Flower, Hops, Melatonin (these are in combination & sold in 2 different supplements - pretty strong!). I wear the earplugs and sleep with a pillow over my head. I've always had sleep problems. We have always turned the fan on & I've always slept with a pillow on my head - before I started with Klonopin 14 years ago. So, I'm not surprised that I'm having the insomnia now. But it is much worse after quitting K !!!   

 

Now, my husband & I split the night and take turns rotating between 2 bedrooms. He has a slight cough & it sounds like an EXPLOSION going off in my ears at night!!! My brain is so light & sound sensitive!   

 

I do Yoga and walk/jog 45 min. a day trying to get the exercise that helps with better sleep. I guess these are good habits that I'm learning. I quit drinking coffee in the morning - I really miss my coffee!!!    I don't dare eat chocolate or anything with sugar in the evening. I'm actually eating more vegetarian and a lot of fruits & vegetables. I lost so much weight going through withdrawals - now, I eat every 2-3 hours - even in the middle of the night because my stomach gnaws at me!!! I read somewhere from another post that some people eat a carbohydrate snack in the middle of the night, which helps them sleep better.

 

BUT NONE OF THESE THINGS HELP ME SLEEP more than 1.5 hours, then I wake, doze for a while - maybe I'm in a light sleep - not sure. Then, I'm fully awake after about 3 hours!!! I had to quit my part-time job and I can barely function with this brain fog, stunned feeling in my head.

 

However, I AM SEEING IMPOVEMENT.  In my 4th month now, and sometimes I will sleep/doze for 4 hours and the light/sound sensitivity is less. The depression is a little better. Even the internal vibration is a little better. Maybe 20% better in my 4th month.

 

I am sooooo fearful that my GABA receptors are permanently damaged & that the neurotransmitters will never start working again. Fear and worry are my worst enemy!!! I have always been a worrier - so this is where I need to learn better coping skills instead of taking a pill. Easier said than done.

 

I'm glad to hear that some of you have seen improvement in your sleep. I swear, I need encouragement & success stories DAILY!!!  Keep writing your successes people!!! We all need Hope & encouragement through all this. 

Hope Dream Believe 

 

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Would you be able to send some examples of the delta waves you were listening to?

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I'm not knowledgeable about these brain wave things, but some of them seem to be associated with various types of relaxation and/or sleep.  There's a wiki article here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats

 

My therapist recommended that I listen to them when I go to bed.  It's difficult to know if it did anything.  My sleep improved while I listened, but maybe it would have anyway?  I have not seen a study on the subject.

 

I have a few delta wave recordings.  Two were given to me by my therapist.  I found more on-line.  For example: 

(I grabbed the sound from this movie).

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I feel the same way about sleep.  I get a few hours every night; however, in my case EVERY TIME I sleep I have vivid and sometimes really intense dreams.  Maybe about 3-5 / night for the past few months.  Sometimes it makes me wonder if I'm actually getting rest because it's like dream after dream after dream, and I've always heard that REM sleep is where we dream and in that sleep our brain's aren't getting rest; however, in contrast when you read the ASHTON manual it talks about REM rebound, and that lasting 4-6 weeks - I'm on week 8 now, apparently, my brain has a lot more rebounding.

 

Also I should've never watched the documentary about FATAL INSOMNIA, because sometimes it makes me believe I have that, but that would be a huge rarity.

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Brink - I had really intense/bizarre dreams after I c/t'd off Ativan.  Some of the dreams were really scary to me.  I didn't remember my dreams when I took Ativan (maybe I didn't have them???).  Anyway, my dreams are now back to 'normal' (for dreams).

 

Fatal Insomnia, eh??  I wish people would stop googling and reading/watching the worst possible scenarios regarding their situations.  It needlessly adds to their worries. 

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Brink - I had really intense/bizarre dreams after I c/t'd off Ativan.  Some of the dreams were really scary to me.  I didn't remember my dreams when I took Ativan (maybe I didn't have them???).  Anyway, my dreams are now back to 'normal' (for dreams).

 

Fatal Insomnia, eh??  I wish people would stop googling and reading/watching the worst possible scenarios regarding their situations.  It needlessly adds to their worries.

 

Yeah I've had dreams pretty much every night for the past 7 weeks (the only way I know I sleep) and then I wake up and am wired.  Somehow I fall back asleep I just literally have to force sleep because I never just drift or doze off.  Going to cut out the trazodone as it has suddenly become not as effective as it was.  I want natural sleep back -- I only used these damn benzo for 21 days and now almost 60 days later still not sleeping right.  The dreams are interesting I'll have 4-5 of them every night.  I swear that's the only stage of sleep I reach; yet, maybe not I have no way of knowing -- I have stopped counting the hours of sleep also, I just assume that because I dream so much that I get a few hours -- what's funny is sometimes the dreams feel so long then I awaken and realize I was only out for less than an hour lol.

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I have the vibrations mostly when itis quiet and I am trying to sleep.  If you are able, what has been a godsend for me is when I can't sleep I getup and exercise.  This calms me tremendously. 

 

From everything I read, and have personally experienced, it is essential we stay away from alcohol and drugs or supplements that influence the GABA receptors.  It excites them just like benzos and can interfere with healing.  I found gabitrol and it worked extremely well.  Then I begn to be confused and disoriented.  I knew it was the gabitrol and stopped.  It took a week or so for me to get back to the recovery level I was at prior.

 

I am in week 14 of recovery.  I find I am sleeping sometimes three good nights in a row.  I do still have some zero nights of sleep but fewer.  I was on xanax for 13 years.  This requires patience and staying away from any sleeping aids and most supplements.  Our system is very fragile and anything can overexcite us. 

 

This is a horrible situation and process.  But as so many others say, getting off really is not negotiable if we ever want to function normally again.  I am 64 and still feel I have some wonderful years ahead...but only if I am benzo free.

 

 

 

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Thanks again for responses. 

 

Judi, thanks for your response. I've been wondering if maybe I should not take any supplements. Most nights, I feel that they calm me down before bed and that I can get at least 1-2 hours of sleep initially. But, I  also have 0 sleep nights (like last night!!!) and the  supplements didn't help me sleep at all!!! I will usually take the supplements about 9 or 9:30pm and be in bed from 10pm - 2am sleeping/dozing. By 2am, the supplements wear off. I get up and take another round of supplements, but never go back to sleep until maybe 5am, when I sometimes get 1 more sleep cycle in. But usually I don't sleep after 2am.

Do you really think the supplements are interfering with the healing of the GABA receptors?? Valerian Root? Passion Flower, Lemon Balm, L-Theanine, Chamomile?? - I think I listed them on this thread in one of my other responses. Where did you read that the supplements can be interfering with the GABA healing process? Any link to a website?? I guess I could try not taking supplements - but I'm a high stress person and I feel they do calm me & help me to shut down.

 

Read about our sleep cycles/dreams/REM sleep - a sleep cycle is about 1.5 hours and you go into Non-Rem sleep first, then REM sleep where you dream. Most people have about 3-5 sleep cycles per night and you move in and out between the sleep cycles. Most people don't wake up after a sleep cycle, but I know I do. I get one sleep cycle in from 10pm until 11:30pm, then wake up. Then drowsy enough from the  supplements that I  can doze through  another sleep cycle until 1:30am or 2am. I don't dream, however, so I'm not sure I'm getting into REM sleep.

 

I will try the delta wave YouTube. Although, I just listened to the first minute of it and I'm so extremely sensitive to sounds at night (always have been), that I wonder if this will keep me awake. I won't know til I try.

 

Someone else posted a link to a 30-min Body Scan meditation. I tried it one night & fell asleep before it was over. Here is the link, https://archive.org/details/MCullenBodyScanMeditation - but it wakes you at the end with a bell. Someone later posted a link to the same thing, but without the bell. I need to go find that again & bookmark the other link. I need to keep trying these things.

 

Thanks again

[Guest [ba...]]

I will try the delta wave YouTube. Although, I just listened to the first minute of it and I'm so extremely sensitive to sounds at night (always have been), that I wonder if this will keep me awake. I won't know til I try.

 

It should be barely audible for you.  Real soft.  Your brain will supposedly pick up on the beat even if you don't consciously hear every note.

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I had those vibrations very badly.  I am having a horrendous time with sleep that no one can seem to figure out but I can tell you those whole body vibrations have subsided.  I am now in a phase where I doze off (when I can) and shortly wake up with pounding heart, burning all over from cortisol/adrenaline, and panic.  It happens every 30-45 mins.  I would love to sleep 2 hours straight.  It would be a miracle.  My sleep is so bad that I am considering just going back on a benzo.  I don't know how long it will take for this to get better either.  Hang in there.  I can confidently say, even for me who is going through a horrific withdrawal coupled with intense stress and loneliness in my life, the vibration/electric shock feeling does go away.

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hi again HopeDreamBelieve , 2 days ago i slept 9 hours i was like WOW i havnt slept this well in months what i did was i went to bed around 930pm i drank a cup of strong chamomille tea i put 2 tea bags in the coffee cup of water , i did something different also i take melatonin occasioanly i rotate 3 sleep remedies valerian 450mg 1 day the next i take relax and sleep its a pill with 75mg valerian and chamomille & melatonin combined i can find that only at the dollar tree the following day i take a cut piece of melatonin with b6 added to it i can only find that at walgreens im seizure prone when it comes to trying bendryl or nyquill or tylenol pm so i cant try those

 

2 nights ago when i took the melatonin from walgreens i was goign to take 1/2 of the 10mg instead i took 2  quarter cut pieces each being 2.5mg each thats what i took the day i slept 9 hours in the evening with dinner i took a calcium & magnesium tablet

 

i need to remember routines i did so i can get sleep like this more often i really hope this works for you HopeDreamBelieve  god bless you, i really do care

Katie (babyangel)

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I have the intense burning/sweating, and it is gone thankfully!

 

Sleep is still not close to right or perfect, but I'm just trying to be patient.

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hi Babyangel..I am impressed...9hours.  In my dreams!  In the last 20 years I think the most I have slept is 5 to 6 hours straight.  I would give anything for another hours of sleep a night.  Still hoping but am happy with my 4 to 5 hours now with NO MEDS.

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I get that severe sweaty, burning all over feeling too.  What helps with that?  How long did it take to go away?  Good news, last night, I got about 4 hours of sleep.  1 hour, 1 hour, up for about 4 hours, then almost 2 hours.  So, grateful.  I hope I can get to the point where you all are - 5 hours straight or up to 9 hours would be a miracle.  Thanks for your posts.  They give me hope.

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For me, I CT'd Zopiclone, and then was put on Seroquel for sleep. I started getting the burning a couple of weeks later. Lasted a couple of weeks, and slowly went away.

 

Not fun. But power through it, and you'll be OK.