Dental visit Monday, have questions, Please HELP!

[Guest [Mo...]]

I lost one tooth to K last spring, and when the sedation dentist removed it, he tore the filling out of the molar next to it, and cracked the tooth I think.  I was in such bad acute, and nerve pain so bad in that tooth I could not go back.  I'm just feeling well enough now 6 months later, and the tooth pain is unbearable going down into my jaw.

 

I called my dentist today, expected to have to explain no benzos, opiates, or norephrinine.  They understood and said no problem, they had other options, major relief for me.  Soooooo my questions are this:

 

What works?  I have horrible sensitive teeth, without a gallon of novacaine in the past I was in agony.  It may have to be pulled, what can they give me to put me under that won't send me into a tail spin in W/D again, and works as well as the norephrinine?  Can I have laughing gas?

 

I do not want to be awake if I have to get it pulled, the pain from the last molar was extreme, and thank God my blood pressure was so high that my dentist sent me to the sedation dentist to have it pulled!  I was so floxing on anti-biotics, I think the nerve pain might have given me a heart attack, not kidding!!  I had nerve pain for 3 months in mouth from that, thanks to W/D!

 

Thanks to all who reply, I'm OCD'ing about Monday.

 

MG

[Guest [Mo...]]

*BUMP*  I'm not as worried about the dentist, but am worried about sedation dentistry after reading some archived posts on wall.  Even people who had Propofol who had trouble for weeks or months after a procedure.  What can a benzo buddy have for sedation dentistry?

 

Anyone? 

[[cu...]]

Hi there MountainGirl50....I am also very interested in this topic as I have to have quite a bit of dental work done. I'm just waiting for the akathisia  to tame down a bit first. Hopefully one of more of our buddies will give us some information!!

[Guest [Mo...]]

Hi Cuddle 

 

I imagine the mods know if anyone.  Please someone help us, this is major stress.  I put it off all these months for the same reason as you Cuddle.  Now I have no choice  :'(

 

  MG

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I think a few of the mods at surgery and used alternative drugs, but can't remember their names     Maybe one was megan? I really need to have the dental work done and am terrified at using drugs at this point. Such is life for us

[[ea...]]

One of them is me. Last January I had 11 teeth pulled at one time. After a lot of thought, I agreed to take one low dose Halcion (which is a benzo) before getting there, for sedation. It helped a lot, and did not seem to set me back at all. And the interesting thing is that now when they pull teeth, it really doesn't hurt that much! I was surprised, and sorry I had worried about it so much.

Taking one small dose of a benzo is not going to set you back, and if it helps with dental anxiety, there is nothing wrong with taking one. That is my opinion.

east

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Thanks eastcoasst62!!!!

[Guest [Mo...]]

One of them is me. Last January I had 11 teeth pulled at one time. After a lot of thought, I agreed to take one low dose Halcion (which is a benzo) before getting there, for sedation. It helped a lot, and did not seem to set me back at all. And the interesting thing is that now when they pull teeth, it really doesn't hurt that much! I was surprised, and sorry I had worried about it so much.

Taking one small dose of a benzo is not going to set you back, and if it helps with dental anxiety, there is nothing wrong with taking one. That is my opinion.

east

 

East thanks for that, but the thought of a benzo terrifies me.  I'm one of those with horrible luck, and it would affect me for sure.    I had that tooth pulled after a failed root canal and horrible abscess, it was VERY painful, and having it pulled just as bad after sedation.  I had nerve pain there and in next molar for months!!  Molars are such big/deep nerves. The tooth pain with this one goes down into my neck.  Some ppl don't have sensitive teeth, etc, I do unfortunately.  I know Pianogirl said Propofol for her shoulder surgery, but i read last nite others had it for surgeries and it set them back.....so not sure!!  I can't afford to take a chance.  I most likely have to have it pulled as bad as it hurts, and I'm not getting a root canal after what I read about them.....the inventor of root canal reversed his idea on them, said they are dangerous, bacteria stays in there, and it makes sense, leave a dead bone and it will rot eventually.  I also read 97% of  people with cancer have had a root canal.    I would like to hear from many more folks, get a kind of consensus.

 

Thanks!  MG

[Guest [Mo...]]

I think a few of the mods at surgery and used alternative drugs, but can't remember their names     Maybe one was megan? I really need to have the dental work done and am terrified at using drugs at this point. Such is life for us

 

 

Cuddle,

 

I should have gone sooner, but I knew this tooth was gone anyway most likely from the nerve pain while floxing and during w/d.  It soooo sucks when you have a phobia about dentists.  I broke two front teeth off at 7 yrs old, and had many surgeries, so I'm even more sensitive to a dentist, I psych myself out 

 

Hopefully more buddies will answer!! 

 

Hugs, MG

[[cu...]]

Have you tried Vit C? It's works great for me. I had some dental nerve pain and the Vit C helped so much!! I also have a phobia regarding dentist but techniques have improved dramatically. Love to you.

[Guest [Mo...]]

Have you tried Vit C? It's works great for me. I had some dental nerve pain and the Vit C helped so much!! I also have a phobia regarding dentist but techniques have improved dramatically. Love to you.

 

Cuddlemuffin,

 

Yes I started taking it again a few days ago, am taking about 8,000mg a day, read that it helps W/D, and am also taking it because flexerils are constipating me, and it's supposed to work for that, seems to be     I have another tooth that is hurting like when in acute, had like 5 hurt different times.  I'm flaring again, so it may be partially W/D in that cracked tooth, but obviously something is wrong with it, the pain radiates with my heartbeat down my jaw into neck.  I'm resigned to my fate    Pain is the only constant I've known in many years....sux, but hey, what can I do?

 

Hugs back

 

[[be...]]

I think a few of the mods at surgery and used alternative drugs, but can't remember their names     Maybe one was megan? I really need to have the dental work done and am terrified at using drugs at this point. Such is life for us

 

 

One of them was me as well. I had a surgical procedure on day 100 of my withdrawal. They wanted to use verse, which is a very potent short acting benzo. I refused. Instead, strong narcotics were used and worked great.

[Guest [Mo...]]

[qu :smitten:wal. They wanted to use verse, which is a very potent short acting benzo. I refused. Instead, strong narcotics were used and worked great.

 

 

 

Benzos, did they sedate you totally?  or were you awake? I assume it was opiates?  Do you remember names?  I W/D off several opiates, they are rough, but compared to K, I guess I could do it.  Been off them 6 months, only took a month to detox off them.  Last tooth they put me under.  Something else I need to consider is the anti-biotics, they put one in IV last time.  I'm allergic to penicillin and other antibiotics, so they normally give me fluroquinolones.

 

MG

[Guest [Mo...]]

*BUMP*  going to dentist here shortly, still would like more answers about sedation denistry.  I can't afford a setback, I'm too crippled (spine).

[[ea...]]

MG, you've gotten at least two responses from Moderators. Both of us told you our experiences. I took a benzo, and benzos-r-cruel took a narcotic. Neither of us had setbacks from it. I personally do not regret having taken Halcion for major dental work. It helped a lot, and didn't set anything off for me. I have also read other posts in the past from people who took a benzo for various surgical procedures, and none of them said it was a bad experience.

east

[Guest [Mo...]]

MG, you've gotten at least two responses from Moderators. Both of us told you our experiences. I took a benzo, and benzos-r-cruel took a narcotic. Neither of us had setbacks from it. I personally do not regret having taken Halcion for major dental work. It helped a lot, and didn't set anything off for me. I have also read other posts in the past from people who took a benzo for various surgical procedures, and none of them said it was a bad experience.

east

 

 

I wanted as many people to reply as possible, not necessarily mods, what's wrong with that?  Is there a limit to how many answers I can get?  I didn't get an answer from Benzos about what exactly she took, I see no problem with that question.  Sometimes the shortness of people on here is upsetting to those of us in W/D.  That's a fact.

 

It's a mute point, thankfully my tooth is just badly cracked, and I'm getting a crown.  My dentist is ordering the anesthesia stuff so I don't get any adrenaline with the beta blockers I'm on.  I go on the 17th if they have it by then.

 

So I got one and a half answers on here, and no it's not ok.  Other people ask many questions, why can't I? 

[[ja...]]

I had trouble with pain (cervical hernia) and I took nsaid and cortisone without any problems 

 

http://www.bcnc.org.uk/drugs.html

 

If you need surgery, you need surgery, so don't let medication phobia prevent you from having medically advised surgery.

 

 

[[be...]]

I lost one tooth to K last spring, and when the sedation dentist removed it, he tore the filling out of the molar next to it, and cracked the tooth I think.  I was in such bad acute, and nerve pain so bad in that tooth I could not go back.  I'm just feeling well enough now 6 months later, and the tooth pain is unbearable going down into my jaw.

 

I called my dentist today, expected to have to explain no benzos, opiates, or norephrinine.  They understood and said no problem, they had other options, major relief for me.  Soooooo my questions are this:

 

What works?  I have horrible sensitive teeth, without a gallon of novacaine in the past I was in agony.  It may have to be pulled, what can they give me to put me under that won't send me into a tail spin in W/D again, and works as well as the norephrinine?  Can I have laughing gas?

 

I do not want to be awake if I have to get it pulled, the pain from the last molar was extreme, and thank God my blood pressure was so high that my dentist sent me to the sedation dentist to have it pulled!  I was so floxing on anti-biotics, I think the nerve pain might have given me a heart attack, not kidding!!  I had nerve pain for 3 months in mouth from that, thanks to W/D!

 

Thanks to all who reply, I'm OCD'ing about Monday.

 

MG

 

Hi MG:

 

I saw my endodenist and explained the same problems. One major one was that Novocaine had a terrible effect on me. I didn't want any. But he was a very smart guy. He said that's it's the epinephrine  that can cause w/d symptoms, but I was not allergic to it, as the body naturally produces it. He said the main problem with dentists is they don't realize that people taking benzos are super sensitive to the drug, and they need 1/4th the amount of the regular dose. The epinephrine is not a numbing agent, but rather keeps the novicaine working for a longer period of time, so you don't have to get shots every 20 mins or so. So he gave me 1/4 of the usual dose ~~ they must inject it very slowly ~~ and I had no problems for the first time in years. So that's what I suggest you tell your dentist. fwiw, I have been using gas for years and years before this happened, and had no ill effects from it. Good luck. I think dentists should pay us to visit them. Bets

[Guest [Mo...]]

I lost one tooth to K last spring, and when the sedation dentist removed it, he tore the filling out of the molar next to it, and cracked the tooth I think.  I was in such bad acute, and nerve pain so bad in that tooth I could not go back.  I'm just feeling well enough now 6 months later, and the tooth pain is unbearable going down into my jaw.

 

I called my dentist today, expected to have to explain no benzos, opiates, or norephrinine.  They understood and said no problem, they had other options, major relief for me.  Soooooo my questions are this:

 

What works?  I have horrible sensitive teeth, without a gallon of novacaine in the past I was in agony.  It may have to be pulled, what can they give me to put me under that won't send me into a tail spin in W/D again, and works as well as the norephrinine?  Can I have laughing gas?

 

I do not want to be awake if I have to get it pulled, the pain from the last molar was extreme, and thank God my blood pressure was so high that my dentist sent me to the sedation dentist to have it pulled!  I was so floxing on anti-biotics, I think the nerve pain might have given me a heart attack, not kidding!!  I had nerve pain for 3 months in mouth from that, thanks to W/D!

 

Thanks to all who reply, I'm OCD'ing about Monday.

 

MG

 

Hi MG:

 

I saw my endodenist and explained the same problems. One major one was that Novocaine had a terrible effect on me. I didn't want any. But he was a very smart guy. He said that's it's the epinephrine  that can cause w/d symptoms, but I was not allergic to it, as the body naturally produces it. He said the main problem with dentists is they don't realize that people taking benzos are super sensitive to the drug, and they need 1/4th the amount of the regular dose. The epinephrine is not a numbing agent, but rather keeps the novicaine working for a longer period of time, so you don't have to get shots every 20 mins or so. So he gave me 1/4 of the usual dose ~~ they must inject it very slowly ~~ and I had no problems for the first time in years. So that's what I suggest you tell your dentist. fwiw, I have been using gas for years and years before this happened, and had no ill effects from it. Good luck. I think dentists should pay us to visit them. Bets

 

 

Bets, thanks   He is ordering some without the adrenaline, don't know the name.  I shouldn't need much, they are just building up tooth, then putting a crown on.  It was cracked, and there was no filling in it.  I know that sedation dentist who removed the molar last spring cracked it, it wasn't hurting before, but after I was in agony, and have been off and on for that 6 months.  Luckily it's not cracked below the gum line, so I don't need a root canal, which I refuse to do....

 

I have more that need fillings will have to go a few times, ugh, just did this last year! 

 

Hugs, MG

[[be...]]

I lost one tooth to K last spring, and when the sedation dentist removed it, he tore the filling out of the molar next to it, and cracked the tooth I think.  I was in such bad acute, and nerve pain so bad in that tooth I could not go back.  I'm just feeling well enough now 6 months later, and the tooth pain is unbearable going down into my jaw.

 

I called my dentist today, expected to have to explain no benzos, opiates, or norephrinine.  They understood and said no problem, they had other options, major relief for me.  Soooooo my questions are this:

 

What works?  I have horrible sensitive teeth, without a gallon of novacaine in the past I was in agony.  It may have to be pulled, what can they give me to put me under that won't send me into a tail spin in W/D again, and works as well as the norephrinine?  Can I have laughing gas?

 

I do not want to be awake if I have to get it pulled, the pain from the last molar was extreme, and thank God my blood pressure was so high that my dentist sent me to the sedation dentist to have it pulled!  I was so floxing on anti-biotics, I think the nerve pain might have given me a heart attack, not kidding!!  I had nerve pain for 3 months in mouth from that, thanks to W/D!

 

Thanks to all who reply, I'm OCD'ing about Monday.

 

MG

 

Hi MG:

 

I saw my endodenist and explained the same problems. One major one was that Novocaine had a terrible effect on me. I didn't want any. But he was a very smart guy. He said that's it's the epinephrine  that can cause w/d symptoms, but I was not allergic to it, as the body naturally produces it. He said the main problem with dentists is they don't realize that people taking benzos are super sensitive to the drug, and they need 1/4th the amount of the regular dose. The epinephrine is not a numbing agent, but rather keeps the novicaine working for a longer period of time, so you don't have to get shots every 20 mins or so. So he gave me 1/4 of the usual dose ~~ they must inject it very slowly ~~ and I had no problems for the first time in years. So that's what I suggest you tell your dentist. fwiw, I have been using gas for years and years before this happened, and had no ill effects from it. Good luck. I think dentists should pay us to visit them. Bets

 

 

Bets, thanks   He is ordering some without the adrenaline, don't know the name.  I shouldn't need much, they are just building up tooth, then putting a crown on.  It was cracked, and there was no filling in it.  I know that sedation dentist who removed the molar last spring cracked it, it wasn't hurting before, but after I was in agony, and have been off and on for that 6 months.  Luckily it's not cracked below the gum line, so I don't need a root canal, which I refuse to do....

 

I have more that need fillings will have to go a few times, ugh, just did this last year! 

 

Hugs, MG

 

Yep. I've taken that very drug because I was so scared of the other drug. It works OK, not as good as the regular stuff, but the problem is it is short acting, so you might need another injection. Do you have dry mouth? That can cause all sorts of tooth problems. If so, Biotine is the answer.

[Guest [ma...]]

One of them is me. Last January I had 11 teeth pulled at one time. After a lot of thought, I agreed to take one low dose Halcion (which is a benzo) before getting there, for sedation. It helped a lot, and did not seem to set me back at all. And the interesting thing is that now when they pull teeth, it really doesn't hurt that much! I was surprised, and sorry I had worried about it so much.

Taking one small dose of a benzo is not going to set you back, and if it helps with dental anxiety, there is nothing wrong with taking one. That is my opinion.

east

 

East, I understand that is your opinion, but you are stating your opinion like it's a fact.

 

How can anyone on this forum say that b/c they took one dose of a benzo, and it didn't adversely affect them that the same will hold true for anyone else? I see this kind of advice on BB time and time again. Nobody can say with any degree of certainty that taking one dose of a benzo will be safe. Nobody.

 

Case in point 30 years ago I was prescribed Serax for less than one month. I had no idea at the time what the drug was b/c it was prescribed to both my sister and me when my father died. I stopped the Serax after about 3 weeks and I was literally out of my mind. I did not find out until this year that I had been given a benzo in 1984. It's obvious to me now that I had a severe reaction then.

 

Fast forward to 2008. I was admitted to hospital and was given ONE dose of a benzo (had no idea until this year that's what I was given) and a few hours later I had a severe panic attack (never had one in my life before). I was out of my mind with severe anxiety and was not sleeping for days.........that was after one dose. 

 

Nobody can predict how someone else is going to react to taking one dose of a benzo, and nobody can say that just b/c it did not adversely affect them it will be fine for others.

 

People need to be made aware that taking one dose of a benzo is a risk.

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Strange that this post was at the top, since I came here to update and research...

I'm going in on the 18th for two wisdom teeth to be extracted and two dental implants to be put in. I'm TERRIFIED because of the general anesthesia. I'm sure it'll be fine, but it's definitely amped up my anxiety.

[[ci...]]

Taking one benzo is OK? Really? What a gamble that is. How much pain do we have to suffer before we get it? NO MORE BENZOS!

 

How about the BBs that had "one more" shot of benzo to undergo surgery (one for gallbladder, one mouth surgery) who had both recovered from Benzo WD, and following surgery went back into acute WD and still suffering, one three years later? How about the BB who was fully recovered after 18 months out from xanax and took 4 ambien for 4 nights and went back into acute WD and is still suffering years later.

 

So you want to roll the dice and say one won't hurt, ya?

 

Even though Ashton reports undergoing surgery procedure after WD is OK, there are BBs here to dispute that. However, you can request anesthesia w/o benzo. I recently had dental work done, w/o a benzo, there are safe alternatives.

[Guest [Mo...]]

Taking one benzo is OK? Really? What a gamble that is. How much pain do we have to suffer before we get it? NO MORE BENZOS!

 

How about the BBs that had "one more" shot of benzo to undergo surgery (one for gallbladder, one mouth surgery) who had both recovered from Benzo WD, and following surgery went back into acute WD and still suffering, one three years later? How about the BB who was fully recovered after 18 months out from xanax and took 4 ambien for 4 nights and went back into acute WD and is still suffering years later.

 

So you want to roll the dice and say one won't hurt, ya?

 

Even though Ashton reports undergoing surgery procedure after WD is OK, there are BBs here to dispute that. However, you can request anesthesia w/o benzo. I recently had dental work done, w/o a benzo, there are safe alternatives.

 

Thank you last 3 posters, that was my point, but never got around to posting it.  It's like playing "Russian Roulette".  I cannot afford to lose, I'm very crippled, spine, joints.  If I lost this taking a one time benzo I could be down permanently in a wheelchair.  This W/D has weakened me considerably.  I read back in archived about ppl who went through just that, had a bad reaction, and right back into W/D. 

 

Mods and people need to be very careful in what they recommend, this is as reckless as the Dr's who got us on this poison crap to begin with!

 

MG

[[ci...]]

MG..........Amen.