WARNING!! STAY AWAY FROM TEVA BRAND DIAZAPAM.

[[Be...]]

Teva brand of Diazapam is like taking a sugar pill with maybe a little benadryl in it. I literally had to call my pharmacy begging for them to take my Teva bottle back because it had literally made me feel like I had taken ten step backwards in my taper. Anything but Teva is better even the talked down about Mylans are better. I just said forget it though and told my pharmacy to order me in name brand Valium.  My taper is too important to me to be screwing around with "sugar pills" and NO it's not just all in my head. Trust me on this buddies.

 

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I hate to say this, but I think it may be in your head buddy.

 

I went through something very similar to you. I've been taking the brand name Klonopin(Roche) for 5 years, 4mg a day. About 3 years ago, I was forced to switch to TEVA, and the same thing that happened to you, happened to me.

 

I felt NOTHING when I took them, I even went up to the pharmacy irate and asked them if they gave me sugar pills. I ended up going back to my doctor, bringing my prescription bottle and explaining the situation to him, and he put me back on brand(I switched initially because a month's supply of brand is over 200$ with my insurance).

 

Fast forward to about 3 months ago. Brand name Klonopin was on manufacturing backorder, and I was informed it would be until at least September, so I switched back to the TEVA brand. I was horrified at first because of my previous experience with the brand, however, I convinced myself it was all in my head, and after 2-3 days of switching back to the generic, I had no w/d symptoms and felt fine.

 

I was CONVINCED it wasn't just in my head when I made the switch 3 years ago, however, I'm pretty certain now that it was. Your mind is a very powerful tool, and if you believe at all that a certain generic isn't going to work as well -- it wont.

 

You also have to take into account that it's summer right now. I live in Texas, and A LOT of pills lose their potency because of extreme heat. If you're in a hot region, that may have something to do with it as well.

[[Be...]]

But if I get Roche I'm guaranteeing myself a great product that I Won't have to worry about anymore. NotHing is better than the actual brand, right?

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I used teva diazepam for most of my taper. No issues.

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But if I get Roche I'm guaranteeing myself a great product that I Won't have to worry about anymore. NotHing is better than the actual brand, right?

 

Correct. I'm on TEVA Klonopin now simply because there's not a single pharmacy in the country that can get the brand name, it's on backorder until at least September.

 

I'll be switching back to brand whenever I start my taper. It's just so damn expensive 

[[Di...]]

Generics are manufactured under very strictly controlled conditions. In some cases the generics are actually manufactured in the same place as the brand name medications are made, so you may not actually be getting anything different or inferior to what you would get in the brand name product.

 

You might be interested in reading this from the FDA.

 

http://www.fda.gov/drugs/resourcesforyou/consumers/buyingusingmedicinesafely/understandinggenericdrugs/ucm167991.htm

 

[[xe...]]

Generics are manufactured under very strictly controlled conditions. In some cases the generics are actually manufactured in the same place as the brand name medications are made, so you may not actually be getting anything different or inferior to what you would get in the brand name product.

 

Generics are allowed to vary as much as 20% in potency based on actual bioavailability. So, it's not unreasonable to question this issue when you're talking about a drug where a 20% dose difference can have a huge impact.

[[Di...]]

20% doesn't appear to be verified by this information from the FDA, but maybe I'm missing something. I hear a lot of people quoting percentage differences, but I don't think I've seen anyone post any information that verifies it. Can you post something that says there can be a 20% difference?

 

FACT:    FDA does not allow a 45 percent difference in the effectiveness of the generic drug product.

 

FDA recently evaluated 2,070 human studies conducted between 1996 and 2007. These studies compared the absorption of brand name and generic drugs into a person’s body. These studies were submitted to FDA to support approval of generics. The average difference in absorption into the body between the generic and the brand name was 3.5 percent[2]. Some generics were absorbed slightly more, some slightly less. This amount of difference would be expected and acceptable, whether for one batch of brand name drug tested against another batch of the same brand, or for a generic tested against a brand name drug. In fact, there have been studies in which brand name drugs were compared with themselves as well as with a generic. As a rule, the difference for the generic-to-brand comparison was about the same as the brand-to-brand comparison.

   

Any generic drug modeled after a single, brand name drug must perform approximately the same in the body as the brand name drug. There will always be a slight, but not medically important, level of natural variability – just as there is for one batch of brand name drug compared to the next batch of brand name product.

 

http://www.fda.gov/drugs/resourcesforyou/consumers/buyingusingmedicinesafely/understandinggenericdrugs/ucm167991.htm

[[Be...]]

I'm just strictly talking about the way it hits me and makes me feel. I don't get into all the percentage stuff. If it feels right I know immediately and Mylan is awesome. Teva is garage. But we all respond differently.

[[Ru...]]

I had the exact same experience with teva lorazopam.

 

I had been on apo loraz for many months and was given teva loraz and it was horrible.

 

Even my husband who is not on any benzos but has used them infrequently over the years and knows how they feel, took a 0.5 of the teva loraz and felt nothing.

 

He was very surprised as well that it did nothing.

[[Di...]]

I've taken the teva brand clonazepam all along, and it works for me.  Maybe because I haven't used any other brand?

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I've taken the teva brand clonazepam all along, and it works for me.  Maybe because I haven't used any other brand?

 

Ironically enough, if you search the internet, TEVA is regarded as the best generic for klonopin. The Mylan brand is absolutely terrible, from my experience.

 

I guess TEVA generics for other medications aren't as good? Who knows. Like I said, it differs from person to person, and the summer's heat can make pills less potent.

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I started with Teva and stuck with it because I did not want to risk a change to another manufacturer and potential problems. I have had no issues. It may be crap, but at least it's consistent crap.

 

I guess the take home lesson is not to switch manufacturers if you can avoid it.

 

Okatz

[[be...]]

But if I get Roche I'm guaranteeing myself a great product that I Won't have to worry about anymore. NotHing is better than the actual brand, right?

 

But do you have the $$$? Unfortunately, most of us don't.

[[be...]]

But if I get Roche I'm guaranteeing myself a great product that I Won't have to worry about anymore. NotHing is better than the actual brand, right?

 

Correct. I'm on TEVA Klonopin now simply because there's not a single pharmacy in the country that can get the brand name, it's on backorder until at least September.

 

I'll be switching back to brand whenever I start my taper. It's just so damn expensive 

 

If TEVA doesn't add as much of the drug as they should (A NYTimes article agreed with you) and you get the brand name which is 100% of the drug, then won't you be updosing? I'm also on TEVA klonopin and stick with the devil I know. As long as it's consistent, I am actually lower in my dose than expected. Means an easier taper. Bets

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But if I get Roche I'm guaranteeing myself a great product that I Won't have to worry about anymore. NotHing is better than the actual brand, right?

 

Roche stopped making Valium a few years ago.  I think it was 2010.

 

 

 

 

 

[[be...]]

I used teva diazepam for most of my taper. No issues.

 

Same here.